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Christians...why is it a fish?

The Jesus fixtures that Christians put on their car, why is it a fish? What is the symbolism? I have heard different theories, except the Christian one. thanx

The history of the Christian fish symbol:
The fish outline is a logical symbol for the early Christian church to adopt. Fish are often mentioned in the gospels. This is what one would expect, if Jesus did most of his teaching in the Galilee. The synoptic gospels state this, although the Gospel of John denies it. Fish were a staple in the diet of Galilee.

Some gospel verses which mention fish are:

Mark 1:17: "Come after Me, and I will make you become fishers of men."
Matthew 12:40: "...Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
Matthew 14:17: "And they said to Him, 'We have here only five loaves and two fish.'"
Luke 5:6: "And when they had done this, they caught a great number of fish, and their net was breaking."
Luke 24:42: "So they gave Him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb."
John 21:6: "And He said to them, 'Cast the net on the right side of the boat, and you will find some.' So they cast, and now they were not able to draw it in because of the multitude of fish."
1 Corinthians 15:39: "All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fish, and another of birds."

Some Christians believe that a second link between their religion and the fish symbol is seen in the Greek word for fish (ichthus, spelled: Iota Chi Theta Upsilon Sigma). That is an acrostic which has many translations in English. The most popular appears to be "Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior" 16 [Iesous (Jesus) CHristos (Christ) THeou (God) Uiou (Son) Soter (Savior)]. Alternative meanings (in order of decreasing popularity on the Internet) are:

"Jesus Christ, God's Son, Savior."
"Jesus Christ, of God, the Son, the Savior"
"Jesus Christ, the Son of God, Savior."
"Jesus Christ, God's Son, our Savior"
"Jesus Christ God Son Savior"

An acrostic is an "arrangement of words in which the first letter of each line ordinarily combines with others to form a word or words or the alphabet." 1

The Apostles were often referred to as "fishers of men". Followers of Christianity were called Pisciculi; the root of this Latin word is "fish". The symbols of "sacremental fish, with wine and a basket of bread represents the Eucharist and the Last Supper in Christian art." 2 The symbol was simple to draw and was often used among Christians as a type of password during times of persecution by the Roman government. If two strangers met and were unsure whether each other was a Christian, one would draw an arc in the earth like:). If the other were a Christian, they would complete the symbol with a reverse arc: (), forming the outline of a fish.

In modern times, the fish outline symbol is experiencing a comeback. It is commonly seen in the form of a bumper sticker or casting mounted on the trunk lids of cars. The body of the symbol may be empty, or may contain a name ("Jesus" or "ICTUS"). This has inspired some Secularists, Atheists and promoters of the theory of evolution to mimic the Christian fish symbol with one of their own. It usually has "DARWIN" in the body of the fish, and little legs underneath. This has prompted "fish wars" between supporters of the secular and religious symbols. Reference 3 contains a humorous expose of the battle between the Darwin and Christian fish. It displays some new species such as the "Evolve Fish" (a fish with "EVOLVE" on its body and a wrench in one of its forepaws) and the "Shark Jesus Fish" (a shark that eats all types of Jesus Fish).

We were asked by a visitor to our web site whether the orientation of the fish symbol was important. He was about to have it inlaid into a very expensive instrument. We surfed a few dozen web sites on the Internet and found dozens of Ichthus symbols:

13 facing upwards
11 facing to the left
10 facing to the right
None facing downwards.

We also found a satirical essay "Experts concerned about backward Jesus fishes" which suggested, with tongue in cheek, that fish swimming to the right is "a duplicitous tool of Satan, the Lord of Lies...Our children are viewing these fish and are losing their grip on morality....These backwards fishes, and all their inherent evils could destroy a society." 13

The most meaningful orientation is probably to have the fish swimming to the left, as is shown above. The symbol then resembles the first letter of the Greek alphabet, alpha. That recalls Revelation 1:8:

" I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." (King James Version).

The pre-Christian history of the fish symbol:
The fish symbol has been used for millennia worldwide as a religious symbol associated with the Pagan Great Mother Goddess. It is the outline of her vulva. The fish symbol was often drawn by overlapping two very thin crescent moons. One represented the crescent shortly before the new moon; the other shortly after, when the moon is just visible. The Moon is the heavenly body that has long been associated with the Goddess, just as the sun is a symbol of the God.

The link between the Goddess and fish was found in various areas of the ancient world:

In China, Great Mother Kwan-yin often portrayed in the shape of a fish
In India, the Goddess Kali was called the "fish-eyed one"
In Egypt, Isis was called the Great Fish of the Abyss
In Greece the Greek word "delphos" meant both fish and womb. The word is derived from the location of the ancient Oracle at Delphi who worshipped the original fish goddess, Themis. The later fish Goddess, Aphrodite Salacia, was worshipped by her followers on her sacred day, Friday. They ate fish and engaging in orgies. From her name comes the English word "salacious" which means lustful or obscene. Also from her name comes the name of our fourth month, April. In later centuries, the Christian church adsorbed this tradition by requiring the faithful to eat fish on Friday - a tradition that was only recently abandoned.
In ancient Rome Friday is called "dies veneris" or Day of Venus, the Pagan Goddess of Love.
Throughout the Mediterranean, mystery religions used fish, wine and bread for their sacramental meal.
In Scandinavia, the Great Goddess was named Freya; fish were eaten in her honor. The 6th day of the week was named "Friday" after her.
In the Middle East, the Great Goddess of Ephesus was portrayed as a woman with a fish amulet over her genitals.

The fish symbol "was so revered throughout the Roman empire that Christian authorities insisted on taking it over, with extensive revision of myths to deny its earlier female-genital meanings...Sometimes the Christ child was portrayed inside the vesica, which was superimposed on Mary's belly and obviously represented her womb, just as in the ancient symbolism of the Goddess." 4 Another author writes: "The fish headdress of the priests of Ea [a Sumero-Semitic God] later became the miter of the Christian bishops." 5

The symbol itself, the eating of fish on Friday and the association of the symbol with deity were all taken over by the early Church from Pagan sources. Only the sexual component was deleted.

Jesus Diet Book

Want to buy my ex a book...suggestions?

I am trying to get back with my ex and i want to buy her a book as a present..something nice but I don't read anything she would..

she's obsessed with:
indie bands
dieting
self help
vegan/vegetarian stuff
studies on jesus (ie: did jesus exist, etc)
but overall her interests are pretty well rounded.

Buy her a bible. Best study on Jesus you can possibly get.

Shine Jesus Shine Lyrics

Lady Gaga concert forceful, lurid and often bizarre
No other pop star offers herself up to her fans’s gaze in quite the way Gaga does

Gold Jesus Head

Is all the gold still in Ft. Knox?

Dream on. There is approximatly 6 billion in gold there. That is a pitance. That amount has been set aside so politicians can get the hell out of DC to Brazil when they are asked to leave by Osama binLaden. The rest is in the Vatican waiting for a chance to invade Israel with basically a mercanary military.
Jesus was not born of a virgin as the pope claims. He is a cronic liar. Way above your head.

You are positive proof, as to why some people should not be allowed to reproduce.

Jesus Rodriguez Jr

I need to find my dad?

My dad's name is Raul Rodriguez he is approx 67 yrs old give or take a few years the last place I saw him or anyone has seen him is in southern,california. I dont know if he still owns his business but he had a taco stand called cubano tacos please help I havent seen him in years and I would like to invite him to my wedding

I also have to brothers that should still live with him
Jesus Rodriguez nickname Chuy and
Raul Rodriguez Jr. nickname Raulito
also he has a wife named Rosa i dont know if she took his name or not

I hope this helps
I forgot to mention he was not born in the united states he was born in cuba
and also I dont know his ssn or my brothers ssn

whoa, why dont you hire a private investigator.

i never met my dad and looked his name up in Wash. DC via one of those free search internet sites and it came back with about 30 Rob S. Williams, but i know his SSN. so the only real way to find him is get an agency that can locate more than the Internet finding thing. it does not cost much either. and well worth the money if you wanna see him again.

Jesus Life Story Pictures

Xians...do you believe in the Loch Ness Monster?

There is more proof that the Loch Ness Monster exists/has existed than Jesus. There are pictures and eyewitness accounts. Why don't you believe in the Loch Ness Monster?

Easy. Because it's stupid. Why would you believe in a solitary aquatic dinosaur that lives in a Scottish loch?

Then why do you believe in someone who turns water into wine, walks on water, and heals people with the touch of his hand?

Easy. Because, according to this 2000 year old book, there are CONSEQUENCES if you don't believe in this crazy fairy tale man.

There are NO CONSEQUENCES if you don't believe in Nessie.

(Also, before I get flamed, there are no eyewitness accounts of Jesus. Each book was written at least 35 years after the actually story would have taken place. That's like a present-day 16 year old writing an eyewitness account of the '69 Woodstock Festival.)

Hmmm first off, these are the opening words of the Gospel of Luke:

Luke 1:1-4
Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

Now let me ask you a question about your news that you read. Does every journalist eyewitness exactly what they are reporting on? No! How do they find out what happened? They ask people what happened. If there was a car accident or other terrible disaster and asked 5 different witnesses what happened, you would get 5 different stories, and each witness would probably emphasize a different aspect of the event. That is normal, that is humans for you, we don't always see things in exactly the same way. But here's the thing, there would be a minimum set of facts which you can get from their stories to begin to produce something of an account of the events.

Jesus Quotes Poor

Why is it when libs quote jesus they think jesus said to steal from the rich and give to the poor?

Jesus said yes to give to the poor but through charity. Not theft. Why is this so hard for liberals to understand?

Because libs are master revisionists. They like to revise the bible to fit their agenda just like they like to revise history to do the same

Jesus Bookstore Bibles

Is it wrong for people to make money of the death of Jesus Christ?

My last questioned bombed cause of too much sarcasm. I just got in the mail last week a free Bible and a free Qu'ran. So this is clearly not what I'm talking about.

But I go to bookstores and see lots of people getting rich off selling books about Jesus's death. Not educational, but "self-help" stuff.

I just think theres a difference between knowledge and clear televanglism for profit or books on Jesus cause theres a market for it.

Do you think its right for people to call themselves Christian and try and make money off the cruifixition of their lord and savior.

I do.

The word of God should be free.

I agree with you 100%, and I am a Born Again Christian myself. Whenever I visit a Christian book store, I am sickened by the barrage of pseudo-Christian mumbo jumbo that's foisted upon us. Having said that, I readily admit there's alot of really helpful stuff out there. As with any purchase, the buyer should use common sense. There's really no need to own a jewelry box full of "The Passion of the Christ" necklaces and stick pins.

But theres nothing wrong with a person buying at least three translations of the Bible, a concordance and books containing solid theological teachings. Oh -- and at least one "Jesus Fish" for your car (yes, I have one).

As far as televanglism, I go by one rule of thumb: if he or she asks me to "sow a financial seed" so I can receive future blessings, I turn the channel and never watch that person's broadcast again.

Did Jesus Exist Dvd

The biblie is an evidence that Jesus Existed, Writing was the only proof back then, what else would you expect?

A DVD blue ray, showing Jesus miracles?

They did not have video recording cameras in those times? so The Bible is a set of Books, I think is a good evidence for christianity.

Oh yeah ask atheists and non-believers, they prefer to believe in the Mayan or Chinese calendars for their own convenience!

and the Bible, Oh no that's not true!
WHAT CONTEMPORARY EVIDENCES DO YOU EXPECT?

I have a book that says an actual monster lives in a galaxy far, far away and he rules the Universe.

The person who wrote it swears up and down that the green monster exists and there are people who are actually following the book.

Tell me, is that evidence for the green monster? The book itself should be, right? Because that's what you're claiming.

Jesus Culture Dvd

Questions about post second-coming life?

A few things about what the bible says will happen after Jesus comes again don't add up for me. Was wondering if anyone can explain.

-Is the book of life an actual book? Why can't it be a laptop, or DVD of life?
-Why will everyone wear crowns and walk on streets of gold? Some fashion minded people may consider this a bit gaudy.
-Will Heaven be broken up and diversified? People like to live in areas that exhibit their own culture (clothing, architecture, etc.). Will there be a Heavenly Chinatown? Will there be forced hegemony?
-When people return to the new Earth, will there still be deserts? Deserts are, by and large, harsh regions in which humans must struggle to live.. but millions have lived there and consider them beautiful.
-Will there be sports? How do you lose a game if you're perfect?

If your only response is a variation of "These are just details that don't really matter," then please leave the posting to people who actually think about what they believe in

I don't mean to waste your time with my total lack of an answer, but I just wanted to say that this is a pretty cool question. I never really though about it in quite this way before, but I love this sort of thing. I will definitely be giving it a lot of thought in the future!

Jesus Saves Lives

If Jesus lives, would he go and save himself from the gory glory seekers that would use his name in vain?

and i saw him in the cities, and in the mountains of the moon; his cross was rather bloody; he could hardly roll his stone.

Yeah, confronted with that image, i think he would. damn fundies.

Jesus Papers Michael Baigent

Is christianity an heretical combination of Gnosticism and Judaism as suggested by Michael Baigent in The?

Jesus Papers?

Actually there is nothing Jewish at all about Christianity. Christianity is more a mix of Greek and Egyptian paganism as well as Mithra...........with Jewish names.

Jesus Vs Santa Clause

Santa Clause Vs. Jesus......?

Santa Clause is Saint Nicholas. He is Santa or Saint because he was a pastor in the church that Christ established. That he has a lot of tradition and folklore wrapped around him doesn't make him oppose Christ. He is brought out each time of the year for one celebration, the birth of his Lord, Jesus Christ. In fact, Chris Kringle means Christ Child in German, so the association is especially strong there. There is no "versus," it is one because of the other, and we can enjoy both while recognizing that the star of the season is the incarnate God that gave the gift of eternal life to both Santa and the children of history that looked for St. Nick's temporal Christmas gift blessings.

Military Jesus Guns

Would Jesus advocate gun ownership, privatized health insurance and excessive military spending?

Of course he would-after all, does God not Bless America? Son and Father are the same deal, so God is clearly an all American, gun toting, commie bashing, burger eating super deity, who looks like Spottswoode from Team America and drives a 7-litre version of the GMC Yukon SUV (called the Super Freedom Sweet Ass Truck God Bless America Edition Hammertime RAAAAAAAA!)

PS, I saw you blocked rayhere because of his threats. I got so fed up his b1tchy 'threats' that I gave him my home address and told him to drop by any time he was in Canada, so he could threaten me to my face. He has been strangely muted since then. Also, don't be afraid to point out to him that he is married to a Thai girl, who he undoubtedly met via a Mail Order Bride Agency, and who was probably underage too. Or a ladyboy.

Jesus Christ Superstar Dvd

DVD or CDs of Sebastian Bach (of Skid Row) in musicals?

Sebastian Bach of the 90s rock band Skid Row played the title roles Jekyll and Hyde the musical and Jesus Christ Superstar! I would LOVE to see/hear him in those roles!
Where can I get them??
I guess that's why Bach wasn't in the role of Jesus for very long! I read somewhere that he acted like a "diva" and was hard to work with.

Download LIMEWIRE then search for ti.

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